HomeMy WebLinkAbout1175 Ellington Road (3)APPLICATION TO TOWN OF SOUTH WINDSOR
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ACTION THIS APPLICATION SHALL BE RECEIVED
APPLICATION NO. p'
BY THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMIS-
SION AT THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED
RECEIVED DATE 1/1 Z o 17 MEETING ON THE FOURTH TUESDAY OF
PREL. APPROVAL DATE THE MONTH AT TOWN HALL.
FINAL APPROVAL DATE 174
REJECTED DATE
RECEIPT NO.N 12 W?}0C.1
APPLICANT Town of South Windsor
ADDRESS 1540 Sullivan Avenue
OWNER Town of South Windsor
ADDRESS Ellington Road
LOCATION OF PROPERTY Ellington Road
ZONE RR
CHECK ONE OF THE FOLLOWING:
1. Zone Change (Public Hearing)
2. Filing for Subdivision (See "Subdivision Check List")
3. Filing for Re-Subdivision (Public Hearing)
X 4. Special Exception
X Article 4.1.8 (Public Hearing)
Article 4.2.3 (Public Hearing)
Article 4.7.2.7 (Public Hearing)
Article 4.10.2.4 (Public Hearing)
5. Parking—Article 8.5.16 (Public Hearing)
6. Site Development Plan—Article 4.11
7. Removal of Sand, Gravel, Clay or Quarry Stone & Ore (Public Hearing)
8. Other
STATE CLEARLY AND BRIEFLY THE REASONS FOR APPLICATION
Town desires special exception for use of this property as Fire House in
accordance with Section 4.1.8 of Town Zoning Regulations.
1 A p;rJ 1.-at,on and supplements must be filed in triplicate.
A ,i.hcation must be t\pewritten or printed in ink.
3 '!'lic- applicant or his representative must be present at the Commission Meeting.
4. Apr-11Lation Fee of $25.00 required for filing Items 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 7 to defray expenses.
Applications, other than; for subdivisions, shall be accompanied with three copies of a map, minimum size Wz x
11 inches, drawn to scale showing the land, buildings present and proposed, plot depths and measurements, street
and building lines, also a measured distance to nearest street corner, names of abutting property owners, and a
sufficient portion of surrounding area to make such a map readily intelligible, and the subject property either
shaded or cross-hatched.
If approved, the Zoning Commission reserves the right to request and the applicant hereby consents to furnish,
within sixty days following approval, three maps prepared by a qualified civil engineer or surveyor showing the
items above.
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INFORMATIONAL HEARING
TOWN COUNCIL
TIMOTHY EDWARDS CAFETORIUM MONDAY, MAY 129 1975
SOUTH WINDSOR, CONNECTICUT TIME: 7:30 P.M.
Mayor Smith called the Informational Hearing to order at 7:30 P.M., noting
that this was for the purpose of discussing the requirement for a Fire/
Safety Complex, which was one of Council's goals. This assignment was handled
by Deputy Mayor Bender and Councilman Fitts to obtain all the facts and present
them to the public. The Council wants to obtain public input this evening
before any action is taken.
Deputy Mayor Bender had a slide presentation prepared showing the poor con-
ditions at Fire House No. 1 to support the conclusions of the engineering
report from Onderdonk & Lathrop Associates, Inc. that the building presented
many hazards, nuisances and drawbacks as a usable fire house.
Councilman Fitts, referring to a handout made available to the public,
further outlined the reasons why a replacement for Fire Station One was
being proposed, as follows:
present design unsuitable for fire station
narrow apparatus bays
insufficient meeting. place
access and egress difficult
leaking roof
building settling
walls too thin for anticipated load
brickwork deteriorating
no insulation; expensive to heat
heating system needs replacing
electrical system needs replacing.
Proposed is a two story, three bay, 12,000 square foot building which would
house three or four vehicles, meeting room for 125 firemen, classroom
facilities, staff and Commissioners meeting room, storage facilities, and
apparatus repair facilities. There would be adequate parking for 100 cars.
The location would be along Ellington Road from Pleasant Valley Road east
to the present site.
The facility has been in the capital goals budget for the past four years and
was also recommended in the 1971 Community Development Action Plan report.
Construction was recommended to begin in the 1976-1977 fiscal year with a
current estimated cost of $500,000, excluding the land.
Through the use of an overhead projector, Councilman Fitts outlined the
growth in services, equipment and manhours of the Volunteer Fire Department.
The location of a new facility should be between the existing site and
Pleasant Valley Road. The present site is too small to accommodate the size
of building proposed and would not conform to zoning regulations. The minimum
plot requirement is two and one-half acres for the two-story 12,000 square
foot structure. Following the schematic presentation for proposed space
utilization, Councilman Fitts then opened the meeting to the public.
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Councilman Havens read a letter received from James Matthews, Oak Street
opposing the construction of a new fire house.
Ed Kush, a volunteer firemen from Company #1 stated that he moved to Town
last year from Long Island, where he was also a Fire Department member. In
comparing the South Windsor facilities he noted that this town has very little
frills and luxuries and that most of the money is spent strictly on fire-
fighting and basic needs of the Department.
Brad Alpers inquired if any other sites had been considered for the new
structure. Councilman Fitts said they had not yet looked into alternatives
except that it should be located within certain physical boundaries with
adequate space requirements.
Fire Chief Phil Crombie noted that South Windsor has a very innovative Fire
Department,, citing the competitive examinations for promotion and the fact
that they were the first to come up with plans to provide daytime volunteer
protection from local industry. He listed their many accomplishments and
stressed that the Volunteer Fire Department is doing its share at all levels,
but they need the backing of the Town. The structure they are looking for
is not luxurious but would be comparable to what other Towns have available.
Councilman Cohan said it was not clear what a $500,000 facility would do
that couldn't be accomplished with $200,000. Councilman Fitts replied that
200,000 in repairs to the existing facility would still leave the Town with
the old building on. a site that has limitations.. He agreed, however, that
it is a viable option. The question is: "Have we really saved in the long
run or are we just buying ourselves more time?"
Chief Crombie said that a renovated structure would only provide 60% of their
space requirements and conditions would not be comparable even if repairs
were implemented. Councilman Cohan agreed this was a good reply to his
question.
Councilman Fitts noted that the engineering report also recommended not
putting more money into the existing structure and that the present site would
not be large enough for a new facility.
Councilman Hornish, as Chairman of the Council Public Health and Safety
Committee, felt that a good presentation had been made this evening and he
sees a need for a new Fire House. He would also like .to consider the idea
of a public safety complex with the new Fire House. We should keep in mind
that both the Fire Department and the Police Department needs will expand
and replacement of the Fire House should take this into consideration.
Councilman Fitts replied that he and Deputy Mayor Bender did not consider a
public safety complex as a principal need at this time. The replacement of
Fire House #1 was the prime objective since this is where the need is
greatest.. ,
Councilman Sorosiak noted that space requirements for management constituted
a large part of the building and he asked if this could be put into one of
the existing fire houses. Councilman Fitts replied that this had been con-
sidered but that Fire House #3 is not centrally located and Fire House #2
is essentially a two-car garage. The new building would also provide for
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some live-in facilities.
Deputy Mayor Bender then asked for an informal vote by a show of hands on
the following questions:
Those in favor of a new replacement facility:62
Those in favor of renovation or expansion of existing facility: 0
Those in favor of leaving Fire House #1 as it is: 0
Mayor Smith noted he had made inquiries as to the possibility of Federal
monies for the project, and wanted to know how people felt about funding.
John Archer, Joseph Lane felt funding is premature at this time and that
better cost e$timated have to be obtained before a decision can be made.
He asked what Councils next step would be. Mayor Smith noted that these
were only "ballpark" figures presented this evening, but he did not think
these were off more than 20%. However, he felt it is appropriate to fin4
out from the people how they want to pay for this project, noting that
funds are available in the Capital Reserve account, or the Town could go to
referendum on long term borrowing, or a combination of both. Mr. Archer
felt this would be difficult to vote on this evening.
George Cox, Foster Street said he was uneasy about a vote on funding this
evening. He is in favor of a new Fire House. He votes in Town elections
for officials to guide him and knows nothing about the bond market ei o r
Captial Reserve Fund. He would not want to set a precedent that would
destroy the possibility of a new Fire House because they voted the wrong
way. Another member of the public agreed, stating he wanted Council to
tell them how it should be funded. Mayor Smith agreed, noting that since
there was no opposition Council will decide on the funding at a later
date and then come back before the public.
There being no further comments, Mayor Smith declared the Informational
Meeting closed at 8:50 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Winifred H. Wilson
Clerk of the Council
PETER R . MARSELE
REAL ESTATE APPRAISER
2 CYRUS LANE
BLOOMFIELD, CONNECTICUT
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RECEIVED
August 25, 1 75 AUG.261975
taWa of south Windsor
Mr. Terry V. Sprenke!
Town Manager, South Windsor
Town Hall
South Windsor, Connecticut
Dear Mr. Sprenkel:
At your request, I have made an appraisal of property owned by
Savin Brother, Inc. , S/S Ellington Road, South Windsor, Connecticut.
Subject property consists of a tract of land containing 5.0 acres
with. 260 FF out of a total tract of land containing 26.579 acres,
located.on the south side of Ellington Road, opposite Foster Road.
Land is mostly open except for scrub growth, and a small wooded
area at the southwest corner, slightly below street grade and rea-
sonably level. It is zoned Rural Residence for single family dwell-
ings of 40,000 S.F. and 175 FF. An investigation of sales indicates
this type zoned land has a market value ranging from $2,000 to
3,500 per acre, depending upon size, location, shape and topography.
Considering all the factors pertaining to subject property and more-
particularly the fact it is being separated from a larger parcel of
land and the proposed 'use, as a fire station, for which 'it is to be
acquired, it is my opinion a unit price of $5, 000 per acre is
warranted.
5.0 acres @ $5,000 = 25, 000
My investigation revealed that the total subject land containing
26.579 acres, and a tobacco barn, was appraised at 100% of value
by the revaluation company at $52,_250 or $1, 966 per acre including
tobacco shed, in 1974. .. The owners are of the- opinion this value
is excessive for its zone. It is my opinion, this is a good parcel
of land and the 100% value is reasonable:
I would recommend the town make a firm offer of $2,000 per acre or
53,000 for the entire tract. This would be a good investment
for the town because they would be getting five times the area of
land for only about two times the price they would have to pay for
the five acres. In addition, the larger tract of land would
provide more flexibility of use for a fire station and have sub-
stantial additional land to put to other uses.
Very truly yours,
Peter R. Marsele
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MEMORANDUM
TO: Members of the South Windsor Town Council
FROM: Terry V. Sprenkel, Town Manager
DATE: August 28, 1975
SUBJECT: FIELD APPRAISAL OF THE SAVIN PROPERTY, LOCATED ON ELLINGTON RO.AD,
FOR A POTENTIAL SITE AS A FIRE STATION - PUBLIC SAFETY COMLPIEX.
Attached please find the report of Peter R. Marsele', real estate appriassr, for
the Savin property located on Ellington Road as a potential site for a fire station
and eventual public safety complex.
You will note the suggested price is $5,000 per acre for the recommended five (5)
acr s required for the facility. However, I consider the suggestion of Mr. Marsele
that the Town offer to acquire the entire parcel for the fair market value a good
recommendation in that the Town would acquire considerable open space area.
Based upon the potential court litigation that the Town's assessment is too high
on th total parcel I would assume that Savin Brothers, Inc might consider an offer
of $50,000 for the entire parcel.
Since the earlier Council meeting I have again discussed the possible sale of the
five (5) acres with Mr. Kaye of Savin Brothers. The earlier price of $10,000 per
acre has been reduced and the asking price now appears to be in the area of $5,000
per acre.
I have also submitted two other potential sites to Council, the propert owned by
Robert Skinner and the Schneider property adjacent to the present Fire Station No., 1.
It is my suggestion that all three (3) sites be referred to the Public Buldin; Gommiss--
ion and the recently selected architect for review and analysis as to which site or
sites most adequately meets the needs for a new facility and any site or construction
problems or costs that might be incurred if one site were selected over another
location.
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September 10, 1975
Attorney William Grace, Chairman
South Windsor Planning and Zoning Commission
Town Hall
1540 Sullivan Avenue
South Windsor, Connecticut 06074
Dear Bill:
It appears that the South Windsor Town Council will vote, after a publichearing, to acquire property owned by Savin Brothers, Inc. located on EllingtonRoadforafirestationandeventualpublicsafetycomplex. The property islocatedacrossfromthepresentFireStationNo. 1 facility.The Council, in its discussions, has considered two possible land acquisitionproposals. One alternate is to consider the purchase of five (5) acres of theSavinpropertyforthefirestation - public safety complex. The other possibilitydiscussedistoacquiretheentireparcelconsistingofapproximatelytwenty-six26) acres. The Fire Department has indicated to the Council that it recommendsthattheproposedfirestationbelocatedontheSavinproperty. This site isalsoacceptabletothePoliceDepartmentasafuturelocationforapublicsafetycomplex.
I am requesting that the Planning and Zoning Commission review and commentonthefeasibilityoftheSavinBrothers, Inc. property for a fire station andeventuallocationofapublicsafetycomplex. I am also asking that the Commissionsubmititscommentsregardingtheacquisitionoffive (5) acres of the propertyversusthepossibilityofseekingtopurchasetheentireparcelwithfiveacresoftheparcelbeingdesignatedforthefirestation - public safety complex.Thank you, in advance, for bringing this request to the attention of theCommissionandforwardingtherecommendationstomeatyourearliestconvenience.
Very truly yours,
TOWN OF SOUTH WI OR
Terry V pre el,
Town Ma ger
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Fire Chief Philip Crombie
Police Chief John J. Kerrigan
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September 26, 1975
Mayor Robert J. Smith
Town of South Windsor
Dear Bob.
The Planning and Zoning Commission reviewed the proposal for. acquisition
of property, awned by Savin Brothers, Inc. located on Ellington Road for
a fire station. The Commission agrees that there is a need for a new fire
station`to replace the existing Fire Station #1 facility, and concurred
that construction of a new firehouse in the same vicinity would be
desirable.
The Commission also reviewed the existing open space land and recreation
facilities in this part of town in conp1deration of the additional acreage
which may be purchased, and strongly xiecommends that the area near the
Podu•nk River be designated as open ace if this additional land acquisition
takes place.
I It was noted that final approval of a proposed fire station in a Rural
Residential zone would be a special exception to the Zoning Regulations
of the Town of South Windsor and would require a public hearing of the
Planning and Zoning Commission, in accordance with section 4.1.8.h of the
Zoning Regulations. a
The Commission has a question,:as to whether the Fire Station #1 location
presently- adequately services' the area near south Main Street from a
mileage radius standpoint, and asked that this question be answered at the
public hearing to beheld 6n September 30, 1975.
Very truly yours,
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
By -2`-'r, ,
William E. Grace, Chairman
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October 27, 1976
Mr. Paul F. Talbot, Town Manager
Town of South Windsor .
1540 Sullivan Avenue
South Windsor, Connecticut 06074
Dear Mr. Talbot:
This is to notify you that on September 23, 1975 the Planning and Zoning
Commission reviewed the proposal for land acquisition for a new fire station,
and concurred that there is a need for a new fire station to replace the
existing Fire Station #1 facility. The Commission unanimously agreed
that construction of a new fire house in the same vicinity would be
desirable. There were no problems noted in connection with the construction
of this proposed facility on this site.
It was noted that a fire station in a Rural Residential Zone is an allowed
use by special exception to the Zoning Regulations of the Town of South
Windsor, and requires a public hearing of the Planning and Zoning
Commission, in accordance with Section 4.1.8.h of the Zoning Regulations
of the Town of South Windsor.
Very truly yours,
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
By
William E. Grace, Chairman
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LEGAL NOTICE
TOWN OF SOUTH WINDS OR
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
Notice is hereby given that there will be a public hearing of the
Planning and Zoning Commission on Tuesday, December 7, 1976 at 8:00
p.m. in the Council Chambers of the South Windsor Town Hall, 1540
Sullivan Avenue, South Windsor, to consider the following:
1. Application of the Town of South Windsor for a special exception
according to Section 4.1.8.h(1) to allow land to be used for a fire
station located on Ellington Road in a RR Zone.
A copy of this application and a map more clearly defining the property
are on file in .the office of the Town Clerk. At this hearing, interested
persons may appear and be heard and written recommendations will be
r ceived.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
William E. Grace, Esquire, Chairman
Albert C. Aniello, Secretary
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LEGAL NOTICE
TOWN OF SOUTH WINDSOR
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMIS S ION
At the December 7, 1976 meeting, the Planning and Zoning Commission
voted to approve the application of the Town of South Windsor for a
special exception to Section 4.1.8.h. (1) of the Zoning Regulations to
allow land located on Ellington Road in a RR Zone to be used for a
fire station.
Dated at South Windsor, Connecticut this 8th day of December, 1976.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
William E. Grace, Esquire, Chairman
Richard Ryan, Acting-Secretary